Tuesday, May 25, 2010

Design and Development: Cleric, Part 2

There seems to be a reasonable agreement that Undead within Deminar are seen as a bad thing amongst the gods, whether the god is full of purity and good or hatred and evil. The idea is, the undead deny souls from going to a god, and all the gods want souls to help fuel their huge domain spanning cold war that's been going on forever.
Because of this, the cleric was born, he's the ultimate anti-undead solider. While indeed, part of his job is to convert the faithless to his god or delving into dungeon to recover artifacts important to their god or even to stop various evils (or goods) from doing things against a god's faithful (i.e. justify a cleric adventuring into dungeon that aren't mainly undead places), their primary goal is to root out and destroy undead. This is something that all the gods, despite their ideological differences in a lot of things, thinks is a good thing. This also builds up an overall world concept that people who either craft the undead or seek to become them (as liches and what have you) are almost universally despised, due to the overall agreement that the undead are going against the gods.
This is why clerics are mainly trained to use blunt weapons (most effective against dead flesh) and why all clerics can turn undead through their faith.
This still brings up a few things left to wrap our heads around though. Namely, a couple of spells in a cleric's arsenal. Those being Animate Dead and Raise Dead/Resurrection.

Raise Dead and its sister spell Resurrection bring a dead person back to life, in essence putting a soul back in a corpse and letting him fight another day. This denies a soul to a god, which, as we talked about above, is bad. In a cleric's point of view, and indeed all intelligent worshiping species, that's also denying a person his rightful place in the afterlife (which isn't a skewed and wrong look at things, but, as I mentioned in the post below, is how people think). The counter to this, I believe, is that both are fairly high level spells, so the gods only grant that ability to clerics who would use it responsibly, those that weight out the factors of if being denied a chance to go to the afterlife right away is worth coming back again. Thus, I see those spells as being used rarely, and also, it has a nice built in time factor, that represents only having so much time to do so before the soul makes it to the god's domain and gets converted into "soulstuff" and not be able to retain its memories of life. Sometimes a spell just falls into world design properly.

The bigger problem is Animate Dead, as it does exactly the opposite of what clerics do, it creates undead, rather then destroys them. Now, you can argue that, since it only creates Skeletons and Zombies, that it's just making soulless undead and therefore no soul is being denied its place. And that's a good point, soulless undead are probably not as reviled as those that still have the soul trapped on Deminar (whether purposely or not), but then, why does Turn Undead work on the soulless undead to begin with? Again, I wouldn't want to get rid of this spell, so to keep the AEC as whole as possible, but its inclusion brings a few speedbumps into the thinking of how a cleric works.

And that brings up the Turn Undead affecting soulless undead issue. If the idea is that the undead are repulsed and sometimes vaporized under the presence of such faith that is basically calling out how out of order being undead is, soulless undead wouldn't really be bothered, since they don't have thoughts. The other alternative could be that Turn Undead works by disrupting whatever energy creates/sustains undead in the first place, whether soulless or not. But then, if it is that, almost, scientific approach, how come only clerics can access it? Questions, questions.

So, agree/disagree on Raise Dead? Ideas for why Animate Dead is clerical spell canon? How about that Turn Undead problem?

1 comment:

  1. I don't see raise dead/resurrection being a problem. The Gods derive power from worshippers as much as they do with the soul-stuff "currency"

    Animate dead...well, sometimes people just like to piss the Gods off. A Good Cleric wouldn't be doing it, anyway, and the Evil ones might not care so much for the rules.

    Perhaps turning the undead is simply a matter of focusing the magic granted by their chosen God in a different way?

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